# Why Muse Wonder Is Dividing AI Users — Transcript (2026-10-13)

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[00:00:00] It appears we officially have a new player in the frontier AI race

Earlier this week, Meta has just announced a new series of models that it calls Wonder

And unlike the Spark models it released over the last several months, Wonder is meant to compete head-on with, as Meta Chief AI Officer Alexander Wang put it, the big boys



But can it hang? today we're gonna look at Wonder and its bigger sibling, Wonderful, and ask what it means that Meta is now firmly back in the frontier AI race

The AI Daily Brief is a daily podcast and video about the most important news and discussions in AI. All right, friends, quick announcements before we dive in. All right, friends, quick announcements before we dive in. First of all, thank you to today's sponsors, KPMG, Cdata, Granola, and Blitzy To get an ad-free version of the show, go to patreon.com/aidailybrief, or you can subscribe on Apple Podcasts

And to learn more about sponsoring the show, send us a note at sponsors@aidailybrief.ai Welcome back to We kick off today with the latest company to put some emphasis on speed

This is something we've seen [00:01:00] increasingly throughout the last couple of months

Obviously, it's something that Google has emphasized with their Flash models, but more recently, OpenAI has also been pushing their Ultra Fast mode. And Anthropic has now figured out how to serve Opus 5.5 at a blistering pace 

With a new addition to Fast Mode

They seem to have stepped up the pace for this one, now serving Opus at a verified 285 tokens per second at max OpenAI hasn't published a speed test for GPT-6-1-Sol on their fast mode, but their docs suggest a theoretical maximum of two hundred and eighty tokens per second What's more, OpenAI is charging 50% more for the premium speed

And while people debate which is better, realistically, both are very expensive versions of the product with fairly niche applications

For Anthropic's version, usage isn't included in regular subscriptions, as some found out the hard way this weekend. Still, for those looking to burn through a ton oftokens quickly on a budget, Chubby noted that Anthropic can serve fifty percent more tokens per dollar



I think that right now these fast and ultra-fast modes are a little bit of a novelty to most people



but as they become more common and de rigueur big shifts in the latency of models [00:02:00] will change how we interact with them in waysthat I don't think that we'll quite know until we get there

How important this ultimately is as a vector of AI competition, we will see. but it's certainly something that all the labs are exploring at the moment

Now speaking of Anthropic, new Anthropic models have been spotted in testing. Users have reported queries being routed to a new model instead of Opus 5-5 with very impressive results People were showing off code-based animations that were introduced with Opus 5.5, but then seemingly pushed to this new model Others reported seeing Fable prompts routed to a new model as well, opening the possibility of a double-headed release. Chubby on X wrote, " "A A release should be near. Since Anthropic's IPO is also pretty close, they want their new model to be released a few weeks ahead so the market can really count that into the valuation.

Long story short, Fable 5.5 should arrive soon, and it looks to be a much bigger leap than we even expected."

In addition to the competitive dynamics, this release could also be a big test of what the major labs are comfortable releasing moving forward. Both OpenAI and Anthropic have restricted testing of their most advanced internal models And could commit to pacing the [00:03:00] frontier by focusing on mid-size model releases like Opus and Sol.

Or we could see another round of acceleration as new larger frontier models are unleashed

As to what AI insiders expect from this, Google's Patrick Tolmie wrote, " "I was I was at an AI dinner last night in New York City. Some interesting topics discussed." One of those topics was, as he put it, " Consensus was Fable 5.5 will be stunning, but OpenAI will beat it in December with Belle."

If you thought, in other words, about slowing down for the holidays, think again, my friends

Speaking Speaking of OpenAI The company is reportedly exploring a Sora revival as part of a partnership

Oh so long ago, the TikTok-style video generation app enjoyed a brief moment in the sun. In late 2025, Sora grabbed the number one spot on the App Store chart, displacing ChatGPT For about five minutes, Sora memes became the hot trend However, by the beginning of this year

When faced with difficult choices around where to deploy compute

Enterprise use cases like coding won out, and Sora was mothballed



the shutdown in April was OpenAI's best example of its mandate to end what [00:04:00] it called side quests

Now, however, a comeback could be in the works. The Information reports that OpenAI is in talks with an unnamed startup to license the Sora model and relaunch services around it. the stealth startup was reportedly founded in recent months by Bill Peebles, the former OpenAI researcher who led the Sora project.

And co-founders include former Disney chairman and Hollywood legend Jeffrey Katzenberg, as well as former Dropbox CFO Sujay Jaswa. Sources said the deal is still coming together, and it's unclear whether the startup would get full access to Sora's weights, but they would have enough access to heavily customize the model

So for those who miss those crazy cat memes

You might be back in business soon

In acquisition news, Amazon is in talks to acquire Descartes AI in what could be their largest acquisition of the AI era. The Wall Street Journal reports that the deal is being negotiated at a seven billion dollar valuation and could come together soon. Decart is an interesting target for Amazon and could say a lot about how they view their position in the AI race.



The The startup was founded in 2023 and has focused on developing world models for use in live video. Their models can produce live [00:05:00] generative video for use cases like live character transformations for streams or generative gaming while the tech is cool, Descartes hasn't found all that much traction Amazon, meanwhile, hasn't released a new series of models since last December and let go most of their AI researchers in the last round of layoffs.



it appeared to most that they had no interest in competing on the model layer for either frontier or commodity LLMs



the play then seems to be about hardware optimization. Decart was given early access to Amazon's Trainium3 chips last year and developed a technology stack they called the Decart Optimization System or DOS. They claim this technology allows inference to operate up to eight times as fast and at one-eighth the cost.

DOS is hardware agnostic, so could help AI models optimized for Nvidia GPUs or Google's TPUs deploy efficiently on Amazon's hardware So far, it seems like DOS has only been used for Descartes world models So it's unclear whether the technology can apply generally to LLMs.



But Amazon appears to be willing to take the gamble

Last month, Amazon was said to be exploring an acquisition at six billion, but walked away after performing due diligence. Descartes last raised [00:06:00] funds in May, reaching a valuation of four billion

Pointing to Amazon paying a 75% premium on their last mark

If the deal comes together, it's clearly about inference optimization. If the technology works at scale, it would give AWS a huge edge over their rivals

Given how much we're seeing industry attention shift from models and products alone

to the business of serving tokens as cheaply and efficiently as possible, Amazon potentially appears to be preparing for a world where hardware efficiency is the only benchmark that matters



one one other interesting acquisition in the works, N-NVIDIA is reportedly in talks to acquire US-based open model developer Reflection AI. You might remember that after a long wait, Reflection AI unveiled their first model called Beam last week.

The model was positioned to rival the best open weight models from Chinese developers, and while it wasn't quite there on the benchmarks, Beam was still clearly ahead of other US open models like NVIDIA's Nemotron. The Financial Times now reports that NVIDIA wants to double down on Reflection AI following their model reveal.

NVIDIA is already one of the largest investors in Reflection, with an eight hundred million dollar stake, and are reportedly exploring [00:07:00] options including further investment in cash or compute as well as a full acqui-hire.

Reflection was last valued at twenty-five billion in March, so this deal could exceed the twenty billion dollars NVIDIA paid for Groq in December to become their largest acquisition ever. The FT said a deal could be reached in the coming weeks but could still fall apart

It is very clear at this point

That NVIDIA wants to build the best open model stack in the West

Yuchen Jin wrote, NVIDIA NVIDIA bought Hugging Face, Aqua hired Poolside and Essential AI, and is now eyeing Reflection AI. Jensen is assembling these Neo labs to train the US best open source models."

As to the question of competition, Zephyr writes, " It's pretty clear that NVIDIA will compete head-on with the frontier labs now. Jensen is pissed because labs are developing their own ASICs and undercutting NVIDIA."

Sutrini's Jukon though writes, " I don't think Nvidia's intent with this acquisition is to compete with OpenAI or Anthropic. If it were, why would Nvidia invest in OpenAI's current funding round? It's probably about improving Nemotron's terrible performance

Continuing, he wrote, " Let's say this acquisition is intended to turn Nvidia into an AI lab itself. That would [00:08:00] only push OpenAI and Anthropic to accelerate their shift away from Nvidia, which would be even less in Nvidia's interest."

Whatever the logic, it is very clear that NVIDIA is very interested in the open source side of the market.

And with perfect timing to add intrigue to exactly this conversation, Microsoft has unveiled the next generation of their homegrown chips, with a plan to deploy them at scale. CEO Satya Nadella announced the new Maia 300 chip on Monday, calling it Microsoft's biggest bet on custom silicon to date.

He claimed the new chips can deliver 40% more tokens per watt than leading GPU-based hardware. " Starting next year," he wrote, we we will scale our Maia family to multi-gigawatt deployments, making it the primary inference system for our own product and services The Maia 200 chips are already deployed at a smaller scale, but this generation is expected to be a big leap in performance

Wrote investor Chamath Palihapitiya, " "You You should expect the silicon chip companies to move up the stack as the application companies move down the stack. In AI, it is increasingly true that everyone competes with everyone. Everyone will soon offer their own LPs, silicon, cloud and applications. The question is [00:09:00] what will the constraint be that you can build a long-term market and margins around?

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welcome back to the AI Daily Brief

It wasn't very long ago at all, less than a year certainly

that most people paying any sort of attention were more or less writing Meta out of the AI race

In fact

In 2025, most of the headlines around Meta and AI were aboutMark Zuckerberg spending an extraordinary amount of money to lure researchers to Meta



And then of course, all of the internal strife that would follow those moves And yet In 2026, the year of the agent

With fall of 2026, of course, being the season of the personal agent

Meta is fully back in the mix

as a frontier lab

We started to see this with the release of the Muse Spark models, which were, if not [00:13:00] state-of-the-art, certainly not embarrassing, and good enough to power many of the functions for their consumer app Muse



on Monday, however, Meta introduced Muse Wonder, a new larger class of models. The release included two model variants

Wonder and Wonder Full. Wonder is the slimmed down version optimized for speed, and Wonder Full is the full version available through the API



Today Today we're gonna talk about how the models perform Early takes and experiences from the community

How this changes the AI race and what it says about pacing the frontier



On the benchmarks both versions of Wonder show up near the top of the rankings



Wonderful scored 79% on DeepSuite 1.1, which is almost five points ahead of GPT-6 Astra and Opus 5.5

And on Terminal Bench 4.0 It was behind those frontier rivals by just two points. for agentic tasks, Wonderful seemed to have a slight lead. It topped Meta's internal personal superintelligence index, beating Astra and Opus by around four points.

It was also state-of-the-art across Harvey Lab for legal work, Val's finance agent, and Automation Bench On [00:14:00] OS World, which tests computer use, Wonder was a few points behind Frontier rivals, but still decidedly in the mix

Artificial analysis backed up Meta's results



giving it a 56 on the intelligence index for wonderful and 52 for wonder

that makes Wonder full Tied for second against Sonnet 55 and two points behind Opus 55



It places it ahead of Claude Fable 5.1 and GPT-6 Astra The slimmer Wonder is a little further behind in seventh place, tied with GPT-61 Soul

And Gemini 4 Argon, which is of course yet to be released. Artificial analysis highlighted that this is a, quote, "material gain over MuSpark 1.3 and comes just six weeks after that model's release."

The The big gains were on agentic professional work and coding tasks, including a second place ranking on GDPVal AA and third place on AA Briefcase

Muse Wonder was pretty pricey at $4.52 per task, which represents almost a 3X increase from Muse Spark 1.3. That puts it about a dollar per task more expensive than [00:15:00] GPT-6 Astra or Groq 47 and about a buck 50 cheaper per task compared to Opus 55 If then we went purely from the benchmarks, Meta is back at the frontier for the first time in years



for for some, that was jaw-dropping all on its own

Ali Lehman writes, " "What What timeline are we in where Zuck is mogging Astra and Fable now? Infinite money plus infinite distribution and now frontier intelligence? Long Meta."

Shopify's Toby Lutke writes, " This model is very, very good. I was struggling to find anything to throw at it that it couldn't do, even when other top models failed. Meta is back."



and and yet the benchmarks are never the full story



And it wasn't long before folks started poking some holes in the excited press

Giving Muse, Wonder, and Opus 5.5 the same prompt to build a triple A level lawnmower simulator

Max Blade wrote, " It's It's very clear that Muse is not anywhere near close to frontier in 3D tasks like video games or even printable CAD designs

Presaging another complaint that we will see, he also continued, " Even scarier is it burned my $50 spending plan plus [00:16:00] $4.11 in API equivalent tokens. I had to upgrade to the $200 plan just to finish this run."



I will spare you the million more examples



of Muse wonder underperforming on that type of test But point you to this comment from Theo who writes, " Already seeing a lot of people discount Muse Wonder because it wasn't RL'd in 3D stuff like Astra and Opus. 

3D game demos are cool, but they don't represent real code work at all. I could not agree more strenuously with this in fact, I think that it is actually extremely net negative to the entire industry and world around it that because 3D games and renderings look good on social media, 

The Frontier labs feel like they all have to optimize for that use case because they know that people on X are going to judge it based on that use case

Meta's Chief AI Officer, Alexander Wang

Even added, " "Whole Whole team feels dumb now, but it's true. We did not explicitly train our model on 3D demo games. Obviously, in retrospect, we probably should have done a bit of that, but no regrets. Please try Muse Wonder on your actual coding work."



unfortunately, it wasn't just those 3D tasks where some people found issues



AI researcher [00:17:00] Mehu Mohan writes, " Sorry, but not impressed with Muse Wonderful at all. Nowhere near Opus 5.5 performance, I'd argue not even GPT-6-1 sole. I'm not sure what model others are using, but the benchmark numbers making it comparable to Opus seem weird. Not pricing, just quality itself is bad.

These are real programming tasks and my own agents."



Every's Dan Shipper wrote, " wrote, Disappointing show for Muse Wonder on our senior engineer benchmark. It asks the model to rewrite a vibe-coded slop database from scratch. a good measure of its usefulness for real-world engineering.

Muse Wonder gets 52%, far behind evenGPT Sol 6-1 at 71%

Riley Brown wrote, " Used Muse Wonder for five hours. Was gonna make a video. No need. Back to Codex and Claude Code."

Some speculated that the issue was actually the fairly significant gap between Muse Wonder and Muse Wonder Full

Adam Holter wrote, " Muse Wonder Full looks really good, but Muse Wonder isn't doing very well in any of my tests. So now everybody is getting bad results from Muse Wonder, and it reflects badly on Muse Wonder Full because they have the same name. I [00:18:00] honestly think it would've been better to release these at different times."

I will note giving a sense of how engaged the team is, Alexander Wang responded to that saying, "Fair feedback DM-ing you to understand more."



and I and I saw a number of other users suggesting something similar, where they had good experiences with Wonderfull but bad experiences with the slimmer Wonder



the one the one other big complaint was around how fast the plans got consumed. Arafat Shuvo wrote, I can't even do work properly with Muse Wonder. It burns through the weekly limit so fast."

Matt Sill wrote, I just upgraded to the Muse $50 a month plan to try Wonderful. Even after the usage limit reset an hour ago, it used 13% of my five-hour usage in less than 10 minutes."

Now, Alexander Wang did report that there might have been a bug that was miscounting how much people were using of their plans but still, whatever the cause, it didn't help the overall initial impressions And

or specifically Muse Wonderful did win some adherence as well

Developer and entrepreneur Theo again



put Muse Wonderful in his S tier alongside Opus 5-5

and everything else being far below that.

Giving an example, he wrote, " Asked [00:19:00] Opus 5-5, GPT-6-1 Soul, and Muse Wonderful to fix a bug. Opus found the root cause and filed a PR. GPT-6-1 Soul asked a question, crashed from the async question tool interrupt, found the bug, fixed it, wrote three hundred lines of tests, and explained it in impossible to understand terms.

Muse Wonderful found a small PR someone else had filed and said, 'You should probably merge this instead.' I really like this model."



Conductors Charlie Holtz also liked the model He wrote, " "Quick Quick impressions. Found a real security vulnerability in our code base in one shot that other agents missed. It's great at design and visualizations. It really likes sub-agents and lots of great details in the CLI. Super impressed by the progress here."

Bone GPT wrote

I had early access to Muse Wonder, and it is a surprising model. On every technical benchmark we ran, it was neck and neck or better than Astra, Fable, and Opus.



It has a delicate touch. It makes inspired creative decisions. There aren't really benchmarks for soulfulness, but Muse has it. It's a warm model, a capable model, and it has big model smell. Its outputs are happy, innocent, and friendly.

It never [00:20:00] talks down to you like some of the other models. It wants to help you make dope stuff. It wants you to make money. It's aligned with you. Meta is going to win consumer agents in a landslide



Clare Vo broke her tests down by category



finding that on front end designed it was quite bad. writing anything other than emails it was bad

that it wasn't great for SVGs, videos, and creative design But that as she put it, it rolls with the big boys on coding and on agentic tasks it crushed

Coming in first out of eight frontier models she tested



Now Now one interesting question is where this is going to fit in Meta's strategy Meta is, of course, much more focused on the consumer experience than other labs are given their distribution and network of consumer apps



About a month ago, I had observed that one of the things that was distinct about Muse was that it was the first AI product where most of its users just didn't care what model was powering it

it And and yet even though I believe that that is true

There were a fair number of users that started to run up against some limits in what Muse could do. a week after I posted that on X, Sergito wrote, " "Anyone Anyone else finding Muse to be less smart than [00:21:00] Instinct? I gave them both a similar multi-step task and Muse hallucinated some stuff and then kept compounding its error when trying to fix it."

And in fact, we've kind of been in a spot



Where in the same way that I discussed

Power users using different models for different tasks. A lot of early adopters are using multiple different personal assistants Brycent recently posted on X, What I've realized is that there is no one optimal personal assistant. At the moment, I'm currently using Instinct, Muse, GrokBot, and Dots I genuinely enjoy using them all for specific use cases

Now that may be how it plays out, but I think for a lot of folks, the context switching cost of using multiple personal assistants is going to be significantly higher than the context switching cost for using models in other types of ways



in other words, there are many use cases for LLMs and coding agents in general where they can provide a ton of value even if they don't know anything about you

Personal assistants, on the other hand

get more useful in proportion to what they know about you and the systems of yours they have access to. And most people are gonna have a hard time giving even one personal assistant access to all that information, much less a half dozen

And with that in mind, [00:22:00] the need for something like Muse Wonder or Muse Wonder Full is written all over the recent pages of social media

Investor and entrepreneur Satya Malik recently wrote that while Muse is very good at immediate tasks like booking flights and hotels, it is, in his words, terrible for long-term tasks

For example, he said, " "It It reminded me today that a meeting has not been set for two PM. That was a false alarm because the meeting was set for two PM yesterday." This has happened several times where it panics and tells me something because it gets the day wrong

Investor Sam Lessin wrote, " Tried to book a hotel with Muse last night. Hilton's site put my agent in a doom loop. Third retry, I gave up and booked it myself."

And it's quite clear that this type of challenge was on the mind of the Meta team in building Wonder



Chubby on X wrote, " "An An interesting insight that was probably drowned in the release news. Meta built Wonder for agents that act on your behalf, starting with its Muse app. Two features are really important. Active memory, which keeps track of what matters to you across conversations, and active focus, which keeps a task going when it gets hard, tries other approaches, and recovers from errors."



Another question I had though looking at [00:23:00] the launch media



is whether with the Wonder family of models, Meta is actually getting serious about going after not just personal agentic use cases, but professional ones as well Certainly Mark Zuckerberg called it state-of-the-art performance for personal and professional agentic work

Alexander Wang in introducing it wrote, "State of the art at personal agents and professional agents."

And the AI at Meta account also explicitly mentioned both personal and professional agents, meaning that there was a coordinated messaging campaign to make sure to mention professional agents

Now, Now, that could mean that Meta is serious about professional use cases this time, or it could mean that they understand that implicit in a personal agent are going to be professional use cases, and that drawing a clear line might make sense from a company strategy standpoint, but doesn't match how consumers think about themselves

In other words, it may not be that all of a sudden Meta wants to compete with Claude Code

for enterprise deals, but that they believe that on an individual level



if consumers really choose and invest in a single personal agent, that personal agent is going to have to do professional [00:24:00] stuff in many cases

There is of course another category of professional

that is already deeply clearly important to Meta, which is small business owners who already use tons and tons of features on their other apps like Facebook and Instagram



that's where Citrini Research saw the viability, writing, " Our takeaway is that Meta has a real shot at capturing agents for small business. It's a really good balance of capability and execution."

For For a lot of folks, the big story is not the endpoint in anything Wonder can do But the delta change Pulsia's Ben Serra wrote, " "Meta Meta is moving at lightning speed. Muse launched 34 days ago. Now they've joined the frontier."

Ethan Mollick said that it seems to him like a good model from a limited test, but, quote, perhaps more impressive, compare the progress. Very fast progress from Meta in a short time."

Yuchen Jin wrote, " A year ago, many dunked on Meta for spending billions to hire top AI talent and acquire Alexander Wang. I was skeptical too, to be honest. but the success of the Muse app and models proves one thing: hire top talent, assemble a crack team, give them an [00:25:00] ambitious goal and enough resources, and they can work wonders."

Certainly markets liked what they saw with Meta up four percent on the news



But what does this mean for the whole pacing the frontier conversation?

Among the AI CEOs

Zuckerberg has not been particularly aligned with the messaging coming from the others

He did not sign the Pacing the Frontier letter, and a few weeks after it was published, he counter-signaled with his essay, " The Future Is for Everyone



His core thesis is that open and widespread access needs to be the core tenet for the AI era, even if that carries some extra risk. In Zuckerberg's view, the concentration of power that comes from keeping unreleased models for internal use only could be even more disastrous than the risks associated with releasing powerful AI models



now clearly this set of Wonder models isn't pushing the frontier and do seem to have very strong cyber guardrails, meaning that they are not dangerous compared to what's already available

But from a trajectory perspective, Zuckerberg is showing no interest in slowing down. in an interview with the Financial Times, he declared that Meta has reached the frontier and is, quote, " already working on that next step up." Rather than [00:26:00] slowing down, he added that model development will, quote, " probably feel like it'll go quite a bit faster from here

He declined to give a number for his P doom, the odds of AI killing everyone that got the entire world riled up over the past month

Instead, he said, " I'm much closer to the belief that AI is a technology that can be engineered with normal guardrails and built responsibly than the anthropomorphic vision of AI, which is that it's just going to go do its own thing."

Whether you agree with whether it's possible or not



there does seem to be a fundamental difference in how Meta views what they're building from the other labs In short, OpenAI and Anthropic are either trying to or feel like they inevitably are building machine gods that inspire awe, while Meta is trying to build what it views as just a normal technology

Who's right or wrong about that remains the debate, but that is the fundamental dividing line

Overall, when you take a step back

We headed into 2026 with three frontier model labs in OpenAI and Anthropic and Google



as coding agents forced their way to the top and showed that they were more important than everything else, at least in the short term, that number went down to two

And yet now, [00:27:00] especially if Gemini 4 argon

can do what Google says it can do. we are back to having five-ish frontier labs competing in the US



then then again, behind closed doors

As we heard in the headlines today, there might be much more powerful models just on the horizon. So maybe that frontier duopoly will be right back soon For now, it appears that Meta is fully back in the game. that's gonna do it for today's AI Daily Brief. Appreciate you listening or watching, as always, and until next time, peace 

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